copie de disque dur

[tim44]

bonjour,

j'aimerais savoir si il existe un logiciel qui permet de copier un disque dur sur un autre sans réinstaller windows.
le cloner quoi

[e-didier]

Norton Ghost, Powerquest Drive Image... Mais tout cela est payant. Existe t'il un équivalent gratuit, voire libre ? That is the question.

[tim44]

merci beaucoup

[eric42]

bein je crois qu'on peut le faire a partir de windows en copie de sauvegarde non?

[tim44]

je vais essayer

[Brunsky de chez planete]

Sans dire de conneries, j'eespere, lorsque j'ai changé mon DD, j'ai voulu faire comme ca, et la copie de sauvegarde concerne tous les a cotés de windows, mais pas le systeme d'exploitation, cad document programfiles etc...

Enfin, si je me souviens bien , mai sen tout cas il a fallut reinstallé l'OS.

a+

[hekko]

essaye le microscopique (et neamoins tres fiable) "XCLONE" en DOS; sur Google pour le lien.

[e-didier]

essaye le microscopique (et neamoins tres fiable) "XCLONE" en DOS; sur Google pour le lien.

Tu sais s'il accepte tous les types de partition ? Est-il gratuit, sous licence GNU ou GPL... ?

[glenux]

Avec dd tu peux faire une image bit a bit de ton disque dur... (et meme avec les infos par rapport au le nombre de secteurs/cylindres et tout.. mais il ne faut pas changer de disque dur entre le backup et la restauration...)

Sinon partimage doit correspondre a ce que tu demande (sauvegarde / restauration de partitions)...

Ces 2 logiciels sont libres...

P.S : je ne sais pas si il existent sous windows, tu peux cependant utiliser le CD de la distribution Debian Knoppix GNU/Linux ( fichier ISO téléchargeable sur http://www.knoppixfr.org ) pour lancer ces logiciels occasionnellement si tu n'as pas encore GNU/Linux sur un de tes disques durs...

[hekko]

pour xclone lis :

XCLONE.EXE v1.3
David Weber
dbweber@compuserve.com
April 22, 1999



<<<< License >>>>
The XCLONE program is not public domain. It is copyright (C) 1998 by
David Weber. XCLONE can be freely copied by anyone. It cannot be sold for
profit.



<<<< What >>>>
XCLONE is a disk/directory copying tool that easily lets you duplicate
entire disks or directory trees. I primarily use it to move operating
systems when upgrading to a larger hard drive. It is also useful for backing
up to another hard drive or saving programs before installing a new version.
XCLONE has been in use for two years during which I copied over a hundred
drives without any loss of data. It is simple and robust. I tested XCLONE
with MSDOS, DRDOS, Windows 3.1, Windows for Workgroups 3.11, Windows 95,
Windows 98, Windows NT 3.51 and Windows NT 4.0 XCLONE preserves long file
names when copying under Windows 9x and Windows NT 4.0 XCLONE copies and
preserves the attributes on all hidden and system files/directories and
maintains time stamps. Thus, the copied drive is an exact clone of the
original. Typing XCLONE with no parameters will print a usage screen
explaining the command line switches.



<<<< Installation >>>>
Copy XCLONE.EXE to your hard drive somewhere along the PATH. A good
place for DOS / Windows 3.x users is to put it in C:DOS. A good place for
Windows 9x users is in C:WINDOWSCOMMAND.



<<<< How to Copy a Hard Drive >>>>
The first part of these instructions assume that you know how to connect
a second hard drive to your system, partition it, format it and make it
bootable. If not, do not despair, details follow.
1) If you are running Windows 3.x, exit to DOS.
-- or --
1) If you are running Windows 9x or NT close all open programs. Your taskbar
should show no running programs. This includes programs in the system tray.
You can close these by right clicking on each mini-icon and choosing Close or
Exit. Start a DOS box by clicking on Start, Programs, MSDOS Prompt.
2) Assuming the new hard drive is letter D: and the original is letter C:,
enter the command:
XCLONE C: D:
That's it. First XCLONE sizes the drive, then it copies, displaying a
progress percentage as it goes. XCLONE verifies each file on the
destination drive after copying it, thus ensuring a safe copy. Any file that
can't be copied is indicated with an error message. Windows 9x users will
notice that one file, WIN386.SWP, isn't copied because Windows locks this
swap file for its exclusive use. This is not a problem as this temporary
file is recreated on the new drive when it boots. If you get any other copy
errors it is usually because you forgot to close all programs before copying.
Rarely, there is a hidden background process that keeps exclusive access to
some files. From my experience these have always been temporary files.



<<<< How to Install a Second Hard Drive >>>>
You've run out of room on that dated 1GB drive and it's time to upgrade
to a monster drive. Before grabbing your credit card and heading off to
Gigabyte City you should know something about limitations. Older machines
(286, 386 and early 486) cannot recognize drives greater than 520MB unless
they do LBA. If you have one of these ancient beasts see if it does LBA.
Reboot and get into CMOS (press DEL, F1, F2, F10, ESC, Ctrl-Alt-S or maybe
Ctrl-Alt-ESC depending on the manufacturer). Look through the menus. If you
see a reference to LBA, you can go beyond 520MB, at least to the next
barrier. If your machine doesn't do LBA, it's time for a motherboard
upgrade. Even fairly recent Pentium machines may have an 8GB limit. A
larger drive will work in these machines it just won't see anything beyond
8GB. You can sometimes get around this with a BIOS upgrade. Check your
motherboard manual (or the manufacturer's web site) for references to large
drives greater than 8GB. Finally, DOS, Windows 3x and Windows 95 (except
OSR2) will not let you make a partition larger than 2GB. So you will need to
cut up a large drive into 2GB partitions. Windows 98 using FAT32 and Windows
NT using NTFS can handle very large drives. Last, but not least, buy the
same style of drive as you currently have, IDE or SCSI.

1) Attaching the hard drive:
Open the computer case. Before changing anything, make notes of where
the cables run to the hard drive and the orientation of pin 1 on the cables
(red edge). Make a bootable floppy disk (FORMAT A: /S) and copy some basic
files to it like FDISK, FORMAT and SCANDISK. You will need this later to
activate the partition.

IDE supports two channels, each of which can have two drives in a
master/slave relationship. Thus up to four drives can co-exist in one
system. Usually, the CDROM is on the secondary channel as a master and the
hard drive is on the primary channel as a master. Older systems may have
only a single channel with the hard drive (master) and CDROM (slave) on it.
If you have room in the case, mount the new hard drive next to the old hard
drive. If you don't have room lay the drives out within reach of the cable
and be careful that the electronics on the bottom aren't shorting out on case
metal. Set the jumpers on the drives so the old drive is a master and the
new drive is a slave. Plug the data cable into both drives (it doesn't
matter which is first or second). The red line on the cable should be
towards the power plug. Plug in the 4 wire power. If you don't have enough
power plugs, buy a splitter. Single channel IDE systems will require you to
temporarily disconnect the CDROM data cable and use it while copying the
drive.

SCSI supports 8 devices on a channel each of which has a unique address 0
through 7. Either 0 or 7 is usually used for the controller so set the new
drive for a device number 1-6 that doesn't conflict with the current drive.
SCSI channels must be terminated at each end. If you add the new drive beyond
the old drive, remove the terminator packs from the old drive and install
ones in the new drive. If you install the new drive between the old drive
and the controller make sure you remove its terminator packs.

2) Boot the system and get into CMOS (SCSI people get into the SCSI BIOS).
Select Autodetect Hard Drives and make sure the system sees both drives. If
it doesn't then you have a cabling or jumper error. Occasionally, I find two
drives that won't work together on the same IDE channel no matter what I do.
In this case move the new drive to the secondary IDE channel and try it
there. If both drives appear in the CMOS, save settings and exit.

3) Boot onto the old drive. Get to a DOS prompt and type FDISK. Select
"Change Current Fixed Disk" and choose the new D: drive. "Create a DOS
partition." "Create a primary DOS partition." If you are cutting up a large
drive into 2GB partitions create an extended DOS partition and fill it with
drive letters. Exit the DOS prompt and reboot the system.

4) Get into a DOS prompt and format the new drive. Type FORMAT D: /S Make
sure you don't format C: or it will ruin your day. Also the /S switch is
needed for the new drive to be bootable.

5) Copy the drive. Type XCLONE C: D: Wait for it to finish.

6) Turn off the computer. Reconnect the drives so the new drive is the
master (or single if you aren't using the old drive). Reboot, get into CMOS.
Go to Standard Settings and change drive C: and D: to "Not Installed." Go to
Auto Detect Hard Drive. If the new drive doesn't appear then you have a
jumper or cable error. Save settings and exit.

7) Boot onto the floppy you made in step (1). Start FDISK. Choose Set
Active Partition and make the new partition active. Reboot onto the new hard
drive. You are done.



<<<< Advanced >>>>
Copying Directories Rather than Drives - XCLONE can copy directory trees and
save a subset of your drive. For example, you might want to save C:DOWNLOAD
(and its subdirectories) to D: before cleaning out old stuff. To do this:
XCLONE C:DOWNLOAD D:DOWNLOAD
Note that source and destination have to be directory names without
wildcards. If the destination directory doesn't exist it will be created.
Note further that the command XCLONE C:DOWNLOAD D: is probably not what you
want since this puts DOWNLOAD into the root directory.

MSDOS Mode and DOSLFNBK - XCLONE will not preserve long file names if you are
trying to copy Windows 9x while the computer is in MSDOS mode. Always boot
to Windows and copy from a DOS box. If you need to copy but cannot get into
Windows because your operating system is fried, use DOSLFNBK to preserve the
long file names before copying and restore them afterwards. This utility is
available online from the usual sources. Make sure you get version 2.2 or
later.

Network Backups - XCLONE is useful for network backups. I write a small
batch file that backs up critical work to another network computer and use
System Agent to run it at night. That way if the original computer goes
down, the work is duplicated on another machine in the network. An example
batch file might contain:
XCLONE -f "c:my documents" "n:ackupdbwmy documents"

Saving Programs Before Updating - Some program updates are really downgrades
that don't work. Before installing new software I often copy directories to
one side knowing that I can undo the upgrade. Assuming the program directory
is BOZOWARE:
XCLONE C:BOZOWARE D:SAVEBOZOWARE save old program
XCLONE C:WINDOWS D:SAVEWINDOWS if it's a windows program
Now if the upgrade dies I can:
Uninstall the upgrade. remove new program
XCLONE D:SAVEBOZOWARE C:BOZOWARE restore the old program
XCLONE D:SAVEWINDOWS C:WINDOWS if it's a windows program

Copying Without Verification - If you want to copy fast and live dangerously
use the /f command switch.
XCLONE /f SOURCE DESTINATION
With SMARTDRV running this will only save you 5%. Without SMARTDRV or when
copying across networks this can speed things considerably.

Listing Without Copying - To see what happens before cloning use the /l
command switch. This displays the files without copying.
XCLONE /l SOURCE DESTINATION
The /p switch will pause each page. Ctrl C or Ctrl Break will stop the
program.

Verbose - Normally XCLONE just prints out error messages. If you want to see
the names of the copied files use the /v switch.
XCLONE /v SOURCE DESTINATION

Copying From One Computer to Another - Instead of copying across local hard
drives you might want to copy to a new computer. For example, you buy a new
computer, tie it to the old one with a network cable or a direct cable
connect and move stuff across. If you are just moving data or self contained
programs you will have no trouble. If you try to move the Root or Windows
directory you will have problems as the device drivers in the new computer
most likely are different from the device drivers in the old computer.
Windows 3x will give you a little grief, easily sorted out by reinstalling
the new drivers. But Windows 9x will torment you as it tries to reconcile
the hardware with the drivers. You may have to boot the new computer into
safe mode and delete everything under device manager. Then reboot and
reinstall the new drivers. My suggestion is to avoid this and not clone the
Windows guts.



<<<< Notes >>>>
1) SMARTDRV and Performance - DOS and Windows 3x users will notice a great
increase in XCLONE performance if they use SMARTDRV. SMARTDRV is an integral
feature of Windows 9x and Windows NT.

2) The only Windows NT 4.0 computers I had available for testing were running
FAT file systems. I'd appreciate feedback from people with NTFS.

3) XCLONE 2.0 Additions - Yes, there is a list of features for version 2.0
The most significant is compressed drive images for distributions and
archiving.

4) XCLONE written in C and x86 Assembler using Watcom v10.5

5) Send any ideas, complaints, bugs and comments to me at the email address
at the top of this file.

-DBW